Jason Fried

EPISODE 0001 - AUG 15, 2017

Sell Your By-products

with Jason Fried and Richard Keeso

Welcome to the first episode of Rework! This podcast is based on Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson’s 2010 best-selling business book, which was itself based on years of blogging. So what better way to kick off this show than talking about byproducts? In this episode, Jason explains how...

EPISODE 0007 - NOV 7, 2017

Can You Sell Water? Part 1

with Jason Fried

Selling is a core skill. You have to know how to sell, whether it’s a product, an idea, or yourself. In 2012, Basecamp CEO Jason Fried saw the results of a bottled water-selling challenge at Techstars Chicago, a bootcamp program for startups. That one-day competition is the starting point for a...

DHH and Jason Fried
EPISODE 0009 - DEC 5, 2017

Planning is Guessing

with Jason Fried, Mark Michaels, and Ann Kienzle

Basecamp’s founders never wrote a business plan when they started the company. Even today, they don’t like to look too far ahead. Too much long-term planning can hamper your ability to react to the present. Did you have plans to listen to this episode later? Be spontaneous and listen now! You’ll...

EPISODE 0010 - DEC 19, 2017

Rework Mailbag 1 - Part 1

with Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson

This is the first of two episodes where Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson answer questions from our listeners. In this episode, they talk about the role of luck and timing in starting Basecamp; ass pricing (yes, you read that correctly); hiring in the early stages of a business; and more. If...

Mailbags
BONUS EPISODE - JAN 26, 2018

Jason Fried On To-Do Notifications

with Jason Fried

Special bonus episode where Jason Fried discusses some of the thinking that goes into making a very small change to the to-do feature in Basecamp.

BONUS EPISODE - MAR 13, 2018

Update: Please Don't Like This

with Jason Fried

Jason Fried talks about designing an alternative to Basecamp’s Applause feature that is subtle yet expressive, and distinct from the kinds of reactions and feedback mechanisms used on social media platforms. (If you missed our previous episode on the debate over the Applause feature, go back and...

Basecamp Behind the Scenes
EPISODE 0019 - MAY 15, 2018

Rework Mailbag 2

with Jason Fried, David Heinemeier Hansson, and Alison Green

Basecamp co-founders Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson answer listener questions about workplace communication and remote working. Alison Green of Ask A Manager, whom we featured in our previous episode, gives her advice on a couple of questions too. If you’d like to submit a question for...

Mailbags
EPISODE 0022 - JUN 26, 2018

Go Behind the Scenes

with Jason Fried, Shannon McCann, Amy Emberling, and Frank Carollo

A famous guy once said, “Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!” But he was a grifter. In fact, going behind the scenes—whether it’s a factory tour or cooking show—can be a valuable experience for both visitors and guides. In this episode, we crash a middle school field trip to the Method...

Small Business
EPISODE 0024 - JUL 24, 2018

Take a Break

with Jason Fried, Adeline Koh, and Rachel Winard

Smell ya later! Shaun and Wailin are taking off the month of August. Before they left, they interviewed three business owners about sabbaticals. In this episode: Adeline Koh of Sabbatical Beauty shares the story of how she ended up starting a business while on leave from a different job; Jason Fried...

Running a Calm Company
EPISODE 0029 - NOV 6, 2018

Rework Mailbag 3

with Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson

It’s time for another episode where Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson answer your questions! In this one, they discuss how to apply calm company principles to client work and classrooms, and talk about healthy ways for business partners to disagree.

Mailbags
EPISODE 0034 - JAN 29, 2019

Reblog

with Jason Fried and Adam Stoddard

The folks at Basecamp have been blogging since 1999, when Jason Fried would write by the light of a fire fueled by David Heinemeier Hansson’s savage indictments of the tech industry. A lot has changed since then (with the exception of DHH’s feelings about Silicon Valley). Basecamp’s blog, Signal v....

Basecamp Behind the Scenes
LAST WEEK - APR 30, 2019

OFFICE SPACE

with Jason Fried

We’re introducing a new segment called Last Week with Jason Fried, where Basecamp’s CEO talks about a task or concern that recently fell on his plate. In this inaugural episode, Jason talks about how the end of the company’s lease on its Chicago office leaves him with a big decision on how to design...

Basecamp Behind the Scenes
EPISODE 0042 - MAY 21, 2019

Rework Mailbag 4

with Jason Fried, David Heinemeier Hansson, and Kristin Aardsma

Basecamp co-founders Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson are back in the studio to answer your questions. This edition of Mailbag includes topics like why big companies don’t use Basecamp; how they managed the transition from a web design agency to a product company; and what their business...

Mailbags
LAST WEEK WITH JASON FRIED - JUL 9, 2019

Six Hours of Phone Calls

with Jason Fried and Adam Stoddard

In this episode, Basecamp marketing designer Adam Stoddard joins Jason Fried to talk about a marathon session of interviewing Search Engine Optimization consultants. Hear why they squeezed all the interviews into a six-hour block and what it’s like to shop for something you don’t really know...

Basecamp Behind the Scenes
BONUS EPISODE - SEPT 5, 2019

The Google Ads Shakedown

with Jason Fried

On Tuesday, Basecamp CEO Jason Fried tweeted about some shady business involving Google Ads and search results. The tweet got a lot of attention, so we brought Jason on the show to talk about what got him so riled up over Google. No punches were pulled in the making of this episode!

Basecamp Behind the Scenes, Big Tech
EPISODE 0051 - SEPT 10, 2019

Farewell, Happy Camper

with Jason Fried and Adam Stoddard

Basecamp has a new website and a new logo. If this is the first you’re hearing about it, it’s because CEO Jason Fried opted out of the big rebranding announcement that many companies undertake. On this episode, Jason and marketing designer Adam Stoddard talk about what prompted the new look and the...

Basecamp Behind the Scenes
EPISODE 0056 - OCT 15, 2019

In the Market for a Marketer

with Jason Fried

As part of a mini hiring boom at Basecamp this year, CEO Jason Fried went looking for a position that had never existed before at the company: head of marketing. Over a thousand people applied for the role. In this episode, Jason explains how he narrowed a very competitive pool of candidates to find...

EPISODE 0059 - NOV 5, 2019

Rework Mailbag 5

with Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson

Basecamp co-founders Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson answer listener questions in this short but jam-packed mailbag episode. Among other topics, they discuss whether they prefer reading physical books or the Kindle; talk about providing feedback to rejected job candidates; and imagine a...

Mailbags
EPISODE 0068 - JAN 21, 2020

You Never Forget George Pappageorge

with Jason Fried

Basecamp CEO Jason Fried is back in the studio with an update on the company’s Chicago headquarters. Basecamp will be leaving its office this summer after a 10-year run, and Jason is looking at a number of options—including a space that will bring him full circle with one of his original 37signals...

Basecamp Behind the Scenes, Remote Work
EPISODE 0076 - MAR 17, 2020

The (Social) Distance

with Jason Fried

Basecamp is a remote company, so we’re less disrupted by the current pandemic than many other businesses, but we’re still taking steps to keep folks safe. Jason Fried talks about canceling the company’s April meetup and closing the Chicago office. Rework will be taking a few weeks off so we can get...

Basecamp Behind the Scenes, Remote Work
GOING REMOTE - MAR 20, 2020

Remote Work Q&A, Part 1

with Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson

Earlier this week, Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson held a live Q&A about remote work. We’re splitting the session into two episodes. Part 1 covers questions about video calls, brainstorming, setting priorities, and good management during a time of stressful transition. If you’d like to...

Remote Work
GOING REMOTE - MAR 25, 2020

Remote Work Q&A, Part 2

with Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson

This is the second part of a two-hour live Q&A on remote work that Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson held last week. Part 2 covers questions about interruptions, mental health, hardware and software tools, and building culture as a remote company. You can find Part 1 on our feed in your...

Remote Work
EPISODE 0080 - APR 28, 2020

Product Strategy Q&A with Jason Fried and Ryan Singer

with Jason Fried and Ryan Singer

CEO Jason Fried and Head of Strategy Ryan Singer talk about the Shape Up approach to product development that we use at Basecamp. They discuss organizing work in six-week cycles, how to handle disagreement, and how so much of the process boils down to making trade-offs. You can also watch the full...

Shape Up
EPISODE 0087 - JUN 16, 2020

Hey, What's Going On?

with Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson

Basecamp has launched Hey, a new email platform with a strong point of view. It’s also one of the stupidest things Basecamp has ever attempted. Co-founders Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson talk about the philosophy around time, attention, and privacy that forms the backbone of Hey, why Inbox...

EPISODE 0091 - JUL 14, 2020

Q and HEY, Part 1

with Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson

Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson held a livestream session where they answered audience questions about Hey, Basecamp’s new email service. In Part One, they discuss feature requests, customer support, and plans for hiring. The full Q&A can be viewed on YouTube.

HEY
EPISODE 0092 - JUL 21, 2020

Q and HEY, Part 2

with Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson

Basecamp co-founders Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson held a recent livestream session where they answered questions about HEY, the company’s new email service. You can listen to Part 1 or watch the entire livestream on YouTube.

HEY
BONUS EPISODE - AUG 4, 2020

The Email That Changed My Life

with Jason Fried, David Heinemeier Hansson, Saya Hillman, Rick Cosgrove, Julie Wernau, Mike McGee, and others

Basecamp probably wouldn’t exist today if not for an email that David Heinemeier Hansson sent Jason Fried in 2001. That correspondence was the beginning of a partnership that produced Basecamp, several books, and most recently HEY, the company’s new email service. This episode is our love letter to...

BONUS EPISODE - OCT 8, 2020

Return to Mojito Island

with Jason Fried

We do a quick check-in with Basecamp CEO Jason Fried about what he’s been up to since launching HEY in June. He talks about running the company as the pandemic stretches on, the importance of not making promises, and learning to swim.

DHH and Jason Fried
EPISODE 0107 - DEC 8, 2020

HEY for Work

with Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson

Basecamp is winding down a busy year with one more thing: the rollout of its HEY email service for the workplace. Co-founders Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson talk about privacy, marketing, onboarding, and the other considerations that went into making HEY for Work. They also reflect on the...

HEY
EPISODE 0113 - MAR 9, 2021

HEY World

with Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson

Basecamp co-founders Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson talk about HEY World, a new feature of the HEY email service where customers can create a super simple blog. HEY World has no templates, no endless scroll, no ads, no trackers, and no JavaScript. It represents Basecamp’s attempt to create...

HEY
SEASON 2 - BONUS EPISODE - JUL 27, 2021

Before Basecamp

with David Heinemeier Hansson and Jason Fried

Rework is coming back for season 2 this September! In the meantime here’s a little bonus to tide you over. Back in the late 90s and early 2000s, during the dot com bubble, Basecamp cofounders, Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson both had run-ins with venture-backed tech startups. These...

Rework Revisited
SEASON 2 - EPISODE 0006 - OCT 12, 2021

Workaholism

with Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson

Working long hours, putting in overtime, logging on on the weekends, have become badges of honor, but there’s a big difference between work and getting stuff done. This week Jason and David push back against this idea of workaholism.

Rework Revisited
SEASON 2 - EPISODE 0007 - OCT 19, 2021

Enough with Entrepreneurs

with Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson

“Entrepreneur” sounds really fancy. Like a member of some exclusive club. But, what we’re really talking about is just someone who starts something. Is it time to retire this word? Is there a better word to replace it? Can a business podcast go 30 minutes without talking about Steve Jobs, luxury...

Rework Revisited
SEASON 2 - EPISODE 0009 - NOV 2, 2021

Scratch Your Own Itch

with Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson

Basecamp was originally designed as a way to manage 37signals’ client work and its success can be credited to the fact that it was designed to scratch a very specific itch by the people with that were itching. Now, we’re not saying that building something for others is necessarily a bad way to go...

Rework Revisited
SEASON 2 - EPISODE 0010 - NOV 9, 2021

Start Making Something (Season 2)

with Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson

This week Jason and David discuss the essay titled “Start Making Something.” It’s only when you start building something the real insights come. Until then, all you have is just an idea. We also talk about Stanley Kubrick films and Jason introduces groundbreaking concepts like perforated pizza and...

Rework Revisited
SEASON 2 - EPISODE 0011 - NOV 16, 2021

No Time is No Excuse

with Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson

“There’re just not enough hours in the day!” This is probably the most common excuse people give for not starting something. Well, guess what. There most definitely are a few hours you could probably squeeze in here and there. And, we’re not saying you have to quit your day job to do it!

Rework Revisited
SEASON 2 - EPISODE 0012 - NOV 23, 2021

Draw a Line in the Sand

with Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson

Whenever you start something, especially a business it’s important to know why you’re doing what you’re doing. Having strong opinions, standing for something, can help tremendously when it comes to making crucial decisions and creating super-fans.

Rework Revisited
SEASON 2 - EPISODE 0013 - NOV 30, 2021

Mission Statement Impossible

with Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson

Last episode we discussed how important it is to stand for something and you’d think writing your values down in a mission statement would be a great way to let people know exactly what you stand for. Well, you’d be wrong. Mission statements are almost always vapid, boring, platitudes that end up...

Rework Revisited
SEASON 2 - EPISODE 0014 - DEC 7, 2021

Outside Money is Plan Z

with Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson

Taking outside money to start your business may seem like a good idea, but there are a ton of strings attached… You give up control. Cashing out becomes the #1 priority. It’s addictive. It’s usually a bad deal. Customers become less important than investors… You get the idea. Outside money should...

Rework Revisited
SEASON 2 - EPISODE 0016 - DEC 21, 2021

Start a Business, Not a Startup

with Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson

Last episode of the year and we’re talking about startups. The new dry cleaner down the street doesn’t call itself a startup. The pizza place on the corner doesn’t call itself a startup. They’re new businesses, that’s all! So, what’s so special about your tech company that you need a fancy word for...

Rework Revisited
SEASON 2 - EPISODE 0017 - FEB 1, 2022

Building to Flip is Building to Flop

with Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson

A lot of people start businesses with the hope that they’ll be able to sell it quickly for a huge pile of money. While this might happen sometimes, it’s extremely rare and even worse, the businesses created with this goal sacrifice so much just for the chance to sell. They sacrifice their customers,...

Rework Revisited
SEASON 2 - EPISODE 0018 - FEB 8, 2022

Less Mass

with Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson

Businesses can get weighed down by things like excess staff, countless meetings, long-term contracts, etc. The more mass they take on the harder it is change direction. Being able to change direction, to change your mind, is essential to building a successful company.

Rework Revisited
SEASON 2 - EPISODE 0019 - FEB 15, 2022

Embrace Constraints

with Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson

When you’re just starting off you’re going to be surrounded by constraints. You probably won’t have enough time to do everything you want to do. You probably don’t have enough people or money either. Don’t worry! These are good things! It’s when you’re boxed in that you’re forced to make tough...

Rework Revisited
SEASON 2 - EPISODE 0021 - MAR 1, 2022

Start at the Epicenter

with Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson

When starting something new, you can work on the stuff you could do, the stuff you want to do, and the stuff you have to do. It’s the stuff you have to do is where you should begin. To find that epicenter ask yourself, “if I took this one thing away, would what I’m selling still exist.”

Rework Revisited
SEASON 2 - EPISODE 0022 - MAR 8, 2022

Ignore the Details Early On

with Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson

It’s incredibly easy to focus too much on the little details of what you’re building. You can spend hours and hours on something that will rarely ship with the final product. And, details are important! But, early on is not the time to worry about them. Focus on the basics first and worry about the...

Rework Revisited
SEASON 2 - EPISODE 0023 - MAR 15, 2022

Making the Call is Making Progress

with Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson

It’s so easy to punt on something; to say, “let’s wait until we have enough information to make the perfect decision.” Perfect decisions don’t exist, putting things off makes them pile up, and you’ll end up getting absolutely nowhere. Very few decisions are set in stone. So, make calls as quickly as...

Rework Revisited
SEASON 2 - EPISODE 0024 - APR 5, 2022

Be a Curator

with Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson

Everyone has more ideas than they can realistically fit in a product. A good museum doesn’t just throw everything in its collection up on the walls. There’s a curation process. Someone says, “no.” It’s in making these edits that the real product comes out, so embrace it!

Rework Revisited
SEASON 2 - EPISODE 0025 - APR 19, 2022

Throw Less at the Problem

with Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson

When things aren’t working, it’s human nature to throw more at the problem. More money, more people, more time. However, this usually ends up making the problem bigger. So, do less! Reframe the problem in such a way that it can be solved with fewer people, less money, and without endlessly pushing...

Rework Revisited
SEASON 2 - EPISODE 0026 - APR 26, 2022

Focus on What Won't Change

with Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson

A lot of companies focus on chasing hot trends or new technology. That’s all fine and good, but the core of your business should be built around the things that people will always want. In the case of Basecamp, that means speed, simplicity, and great customer service. For a company like Amazon, it...

Rework Revisited
SEASON 2 - EPISODE 0027 - MAY 3, 2022

Tone is in Your Fingers

with Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson

Any photographer will tell you it doesn’t really matter what camera you use if you know how to take a good picture. So often, businesses obsess over getting a fancy office, the best software or breakroom snacks, when they really should be focusing on getting customers and making money. It doesn’t...

Rework Revisited
SEASON 2 - EPISODE 0028 - MAY 10, 2022

Sell Your By-products (Season 2)

with Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson

Henry Ford turned wood scraps from Model T production into charcoal. That company is now called Kingsford and it’s the leading manufacturer of charcoal in America. 37signals was a small web design firm before it started selling the project management tool it made to communicate with clients. That’s...

Rework Revisited
SEASON 2 - EPISODE 0029 - MAY 24, 2022

Launch Now

with Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson

If you had to launch your thing in just two weeks what would you cut out? Put off anything you don’t absolutely need for launch. You can always build that stuff later when you have more information. It’s best to just get it out there!

Rework Revisited
SEASON 2 - EPISODE 0030 - MAY 31, 2022

Illusions of Agreement

with Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson

Simply describing your pitch can cause the illusion of agreement. Everyone may have a completely different idea of what you’re talking about. Try sketching it out, hum the melody you want to create, or, better yet, start building the thing. Removing these levels of abstraction ensures everyone is on...

Rework Revisited
SEASON 2 - EPISODE 0031 - JUN 21, 2022

Reasons to Quit

with Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson

Are you doing work that matters or are you just doing what you think you should be doing? Sinking too much time into something that you should have quit working on weeks ago is an easy trap to fall into. Avoid it by asking yourself some simple questions:

Rework Revisited
SEASON 2 - EPISODE 0033 - SEP 6, 2022

Meetings are Toxic (Season 2)

with Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson

Meetings are the worst type of interruption. A one-hour meeting with five people is actually five hours of productivity lost. They’re also horrible at conveying information. So, why do so many companies jump to meetings as the first option. Next time try writing something up, jumping on a a...

Rework Revisited
SEASON 2 - EPISODE 0034 - SEP 13, 2022

Good Enough is Fine

with Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson

At 37signals, we tend to solve problems by finding a “judo solution.” The simplest, easiest, cheapest solution that gets you 90% of the way there. It doesn’t have to be perfect. It doesn’t have to be great. It just has to be good enough. Part of this is reframing and simplifying the problem itself....

Rework Revisited
SEASON 2 - EPISODE 0035 - SEP 20, 2022

Quick Wins

with Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson

Building and maintaining momentum is one of the most underrated things you can do when building products. Keep moving forward by shipping work early and often. The longer something takes, the less likely it is you’ll finish it. At 37signals, we work in six-week cycles, but even six weeks is a long...

Rework Revisited
SEASON 2 - EPISODE 0036 - SEP 27, 2022

Don't be a Hero

with Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson

You’ve been working on a thing for days, weeks, maybe months and you’re still nowhere near finishing. Our natural instinct is to say, “I’ve already put this much time and energy into it, might as well finish.” Well, most of the time this is wrong. You’re not getting that time back either way and...

Rework Revisited

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